not going to save our way out or tax our way out, but those things do matter. i'm glad ceos are spending time expressing their thoughts on these issues. >> but we're living cliff by cliff. >> yes. >> it's amazing to me that we haven't, you know, put out real solutions. has this, do you think, become an impediment for business? has it become an impediment for your business that all this uncertainty and the fact that we can't make any decisions in washington, even though the corporate balance sheet is quite strong. >> absolutely. what did we talk about in december? nothing but fiscal cliff. it even drove santa claus off the front page. all we talked about. >> that's true. >> now the debt ceiling and then it's sequester and the continuing resolution. we go from this cliff to that cliff, and we don't deal with the problem. if we deal with the problem, there's so many assets in america. we can grow our way out of this. >> let me ask you about getting out of a problem and for many it's regular laying. after the 2008 upset, the banking sector has faced much higher reg